Mags: I didn’t fancy Phil to start off with – he had a great face, but he was a little bit fat. It was a bit ‘Pity about the body’!

Phil: Well, some friends of ours, Cliff and Eirlys, told me that there was a woman playing the harp in Cardiff Castle that I’d get along with very well, and that’s all the said. Then I met Mags for the first time and thought to myself ‘Now there’s an interesting lady’...

Mags: But that night, this woman– I can’t remember her name now – well, she fell for Phil. There was no immediate rapport between us, because I was much older than Phil, but when this woman made a beeline for Phil I was really angry! I remember saying to Eirlys, ‘tell that young man to be careful – that woman is mad!”

But obviously you managed to rescue him from her clutches?

Mags: Heather, that was her name, Heather. He asked a million times – and I always answered ‘go and find a girl your own age, leave me alone’ because I had three children then. After going through a break-up you’re very scared – but Phil was just brill. A few years later I was performing on the stage in Cardiff and I thought to myself ‘Oh, he’s such a fine man’ so I thought ‘okay, if the kids are happy I’ll give in and marry you.’

Tell me about the dress...

Mags: Well we didn’t really have much time – three weeks – and Phil was working in Panto at the Sherman at the time. One of the actresses, Lisa, was out of work and she told me ‘Mags, I’ll do the clothes for you’ and I think I got everything for less than two hundred pounds!

Why did you decide to wear red?

Mags: Well, it was going to be black, and my friend had just married in black in Hamburg. I went out to the wedding – but my girls got in a huff and said I couldn’t marry in black. Since we love rugby, red was the natural second choice!

Phil: We’d got our cravats in the morning, so I had an idea there was going to be some red involved somewhere. I wasn’t shocked – it was delightful to tell you the truth, because red is my favourite colour – and she came in wearing red and looking gorgeous I must say.

Is it strange or nice to see this dress now, in all its glory?

Mags: It is – I’m glad I’ve found it mind – it was in the trunk under a load of old blankets.

Phil: I haven’t seen it for twenty years, I’d forgotten how pretty it was to be honest. It looks like something Princess Grace would wear I think.

Mags: O dear – he’s not usually this sweet!

Phil: Charming!